TERRY Chart 0212

This is a Chart for Thomas Terry and Martha Florence Ohnesaugen/Ohnesorgen

possibly
married
17th February 1939

1
THOMAS TERRY

born
5th December 1905
(20th September 1906 on military service)
Bermondsey, London
registered
March quarter 1906
St Olave district
London
baptised
17th January 1906
St Crispin Church
Bermondsey, London
occupation
1911 School
1923 Rivet Boy
 1939 Labourer at Main Roads Council Cap in Ingham 
North, Queensland, Australia
1943 Labourer (Australia Electoral Roll)
1949 Cook (Australia Electoral Roll)
1958 Labourer (Australia Electoral Roll)
1963 Labourer (Australia Electoral Roll)
1968 Labourer (Australia Electoral Roll)
1972 Labourer (Australia Electoral Roll)
1977 (No occupation given)  (Australia Electoral Roll)
emigrated
England
23rd February 1923
on
“Hobsons Bay”
arriving
Brisbane
23rd February 1923 
military service
1940-1947 B884 Army Citizen,
military enlisted
 Townsville, Queensland, Australia
Service No Q55080
born
London, England
20 September 1906
next of kin
Martha TERRY
 died 
27th August 1977 
  Mackay
 Queensland, Australia
buried
September 1977
Mount Bassett Cemetery
Mackay
Mackay Region
Queensland
Australia
Section 1, Line H, Plot 7

 

2
MARTHA FLORENCE 
OHNESAUGEN/OHNESORGEN

born
26th July 1916
Queensland
Australia
occupation
1943 Home Duties (Australia Electoral Roll)
1949 Home Duties (Australia Electoral Roll)
1958 Home Duties (Australia Electoral Roll)
1963 Home Duties (Australia Electoral Roll)
1968 Home Duties (Australia Electoral Roll)
1972 Home Duties (Australia Electoral Roll)
1977 Home Duties (Australia Electoral Roll)
1980 Home Duties (Australia Electoral Roll)
died
2nd October 1992
buried
October 1992
Mount Bassett Cemetery
Mackay
Mackay Region
Queensland
Australia
Section 1, Line H, Plot 6


3
Jessica
Kathleen
TERRY

married (1) 
??? 
KARGER

married (2)
 ???
 COLEMAN
  1. 1906 36 Alpine Road, Rotherhithe, London. (baptism of Thomas)
    1911 112 New Church Street, Bermondsey, London. Living with them was grandmother Mary TIBBOTT (69) widow born Limerick, Ireland (resident in this country) and her daughter Sarah Ann (40) single Vegetable Cook
    Kitchen Department Biscuit Factory born Bermondsey, Surrey
    1923 24 Dannets Road, New Cross, London (emigration to Australia)
    1943 32 Wills Street, Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia (Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1949 er. Hinschen and Smith sts., Prosperpine, Dawson, Queensland, Australia ((Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1958 Goldsmith Street, Mackay, Dawson, Queensland, Australia (Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1963 6 Holland Street, Mackay, Dawson, Queensland, Australia(Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1968 6 Holland Street, Mackay, Dawson, Queensland, Australia (Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1972 5 Cemetery Road, Mackay West, Dawson, Queensland, Australia (Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1977 15 Smith Street, Mackay West, Dawson, Queensland, Australia (Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1980 12 Paradise Street, Mackay West, Dawson, Queensland, Australia (Australia Electoral Roll (At this address Martha Florence TERRY)
    July/August 2010
    Recently I have had several messages from Ginger HOLINKA and Jessica COLEMAN from Australia. Jessica is descended from a Thomas TERRY whose grandmother was Jessie Sophie TERRY. There are two alternative Thomas TERRYs and despite many searches we still can't come to a conclusion as to which Thomas is the right one! What I think is below and that is how I have amended my details….
    Thomas TERRY and Jessie Sophie GRAY had (amongst others) two sons..
    Theodore Arthur James TERRY who married Florence Jane PILCHER and
    Augustus Herbert James TERRY who married Elizabeth TIBBOTT
    Both brothers had a son Thomas..
    I think Theodore's was born 20 February 1906 36 Alpine Road, Rotherhithe, Surrey and
    Augustus's was born 5 December 1905 Bermondsey, London
    (although Ginger and Jessica think the other way round...see below for details).
    One of the Thomases went to Australia in 1923 age 17....so it could be either.
    When Thomas married in Australia in 1939 he gave his mother's name as TIBBET...(source Jessica COLEMAN and Ginger HOLINKA) and the information that his father was deceased....although he later told his daughter that his parents were killed in the war. Of the two possible fathers Theodore died in 1931 (agrees with wedding information) and Augustus in 1943 (agrees with information given to daughter).
    Apparently Thomas cut off all links to his wife's family and had no contact with his own....so the information about his father - whichever version - dead before 1939 or died in war - could be suspect if he wanted to cut all links with home. However, giving his mother's name as TIBBET in 1939 it would seem that he was the son of Augustus Herbert James and was born 5 December 1905. In 1923 when emigrating to Australia he gave his address as 94 Dennets Road, New Cross, London SE. I tried looking for that on the 1911 as Jessica suggested perhaps his grandmother lived there but Jessie Sophie was in Bermondsey in 1911 and she died in 1934 in the St Olave District which includes Bermondsey so I don't think that could be the case. However, no Dennets Road information came up so no help there anyway.
    However, when Thomas was 65 he wanted a pension so in 1971 obtained a birth certificate (copy held by Jessica and Ginger) which shows his mother's name as PILCHER...and birth date as 20 February 1906. And obviously the father must have been shown as Theodore! What did Thomas think when the certificate arrived? He had given his mother's name in 1939 as TIBBETT, now in 1971 she is shown as PILCHER! Going on which family I think he belongs to the date on the certificate was wrong and both parents were wrong….. I just feel that in 1939 he provided the information that his mother's name was TIBBET...why would he give that name if it was actually PILCHER? Did he perhaps think....well...it's a birth certificate…...I can use it to get my pension regardless of the differences?
    I have entered these notes for Thomas, Jessie, their two sons, and their two Thomas grandsons. If anyone can provide information to clarify this problem we would be delighted to hear from them.
  2. 1943 32 Wills Street, Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia (Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1949 er. Hinschen and Smith sts., Prosperpine, Dawson, Queensland, Australia ((Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1958 Goldsmith Street, Mackay, Dawson, Queensland, Australia (Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1963 6 Holland Street, Mackay, Dawson, Queensland, Australia(Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1968 6 Holland Street, Mackay, Dawson, Queensland, Australia (Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1972 5 Cemetery Road, Mackay West, Dawson, Queensland, Australia (Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1977 15 Smith Street, Mackay West, Dawson, Queensland, Australia (Australia Electoral Roll) At this address Martha Florence TERRY and Thomas TERRY
    1980 12 Paradise Street, Mackay West, Dawson, Queensland, Australia (Australia Electoral Roll (At this address Martha Florence TERRY)
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