ANGIER Chart 0700

This is Chart for John (Adolphus) Angier and Elizabeth Chaff

 

possibly
married
December quarter
1839
Stoke Damerel district
Devon

 

2,3,4
JOHN (ADOLPHUS) ANGIER

born about
1799
Stonehouse, Devon
occupation
1841 Carpenter
1851 Carpenter and Joiner

 

1,2,3,4,5,6,7
ELIZABETH CHAFF
born about
1805
Tavistock, Devon
occupation
1861 Workwoman
1871 Needlewoman
died about
1888
London
buried
12th January 1888
Highgate Cemetery
London
widow on the 1861 Census


4
Elizabeth Chaff
ANGIER
born about
1843
Plymouth, Devon
occupation
1851 Scholar
died
19th August 1852
24 Green Street
Plymouth, Devon
Aged 10
4,5,8,9
George Lupton
ANGIER
born about
1847
Plymouth, Devon

married
March quarter 1879
St Pancras district
London
Elizabeth
FERN
4,5,6,7,10
Wallace
ANGIER
born about
1851
(2 weeks on the 1851 Census)
Plymouth, Devon
occupation
1861 Errand Boy
1871 Sadler (Apprentice)
1881 Harness Maker (Unemployed)
1901 Harness Maker
  1. On 4th December Charles RIGNALL replied to me with the following regarding this Chart. This leaves some sorting out to do in the future and is put in, in case anyone looks at this chart and can answer the problems we have:
    It is now generally agreed that the  Trelavon connection is MaryAnn, not Joanna Doidge. Further, I have been in contact with Bonnie Mann. She brought up the point that her grandfather's middle name was Angier. A researcher in Devon has found an Angier family in the 1851 census of Plymouth which has listed as head 
    John Angier, wife Elizabeth Angier, and mother in law Joanna Chafe, age 85, born in Tavistock. There is a child named George Lupton Angier. 
    Bonnie wrote that Joanna Lupton married William Bate, who used to take  her great grandfather swimming in Plymouth Harbor. She added that William and Joanna had a daughter named Grace, who married an Angier. Could Chafe have been misread as Bate at some point? 
    Also, the Elizabeth Angier listed in the census is shown as being 45 years old. That would put her birth date around 1806, before the supposed death of John Lupton in 1808. We are therefore left with the possibility that Elizabeth was George Lupton's sister. Grace is completely unaccounted for at this point.
    I have looked at the a bit more and I feel that the information we have above is incorrect. On the GEDCOM that Charles RIGNALL sent me he shows a death of an Elizabeth ANGIER, buried 1888 aged 83 years this would ties up with the Grace above if her names was Elizabeth. As Charles says above that this would make Grace/Elizabeth born before the death we have for John, but this is a "might have died in battle in 1808 so it could have been earlier. I also have found Elizabeth ANGIER on the 1841 and 1871 census and no doubt will find her on others in due course. The 1841 (as the 1851) shows her husband as John not George so I think this is incorrect as well, and Joanna CHAFE is the mother so I feel that Joanna's second marriage was to a CHAFE not a BATE and this has been misread somewhere. The 1851 Census shows John ANGIER with his wife Elizabeth and with mother Joanna CHAFE, but not only he child George Lupton ANGIER as mentioned above but an Elizabeth Chafe ANGIER, so using both using parents names and a son William Angier, using his fathers name.
    I am therefore amending the above chart to show how I think the situation should be, but by doing this it will lose the situation before change, so just for the record, we had for the second marriage of Joanna DOIDGE to a William BATE (think should be CHAFE) and they had a child Grace (think it should be Elizabeth and of course her surname would have been CHAFF not BATE) and she married a George ANGIER (think it should be John).
  2. 1841 Census - Charles the Martyr, Plymouth, Devon. Joanna CHAFF, mother in law was with Elizabeth and John on this Census, she is down as being 70
  3. There is a marriage of an Elizabeth CHAFF in Stoke Damerel district as shown above, but the John is shown as Meager, but I think this should be Angier and I think it is the correct marriage.
  4. 1851 Census - 22 Green Street, Charles the Martyr, Plymouth, Devon. There were three children, Elizabeth Chaff ANGIER aged 8 a Scholar, born Plymouth, Devon and George Lupton ANGIER, aged 4 Scholar, born Plymouth, Devon and Wallace ANGIER aged 2 weeks born Plymouth, Devon. Also there was Joanna CHAFF, mother-in-law, a widow, aged 85 born Tavistock, Devon and a Lodger a William ASH aged 18 a Painter and Glazier born Kingsbridge, Devon. 
  5. 1861 Census - Basket Street, St Andrew, Plymouth, Devon. Children with Elizabeth, George L ANGIER, aged 14 an Apprentice, born Plymouth, Devon and Wallace ANGIER aged 10, Errand Boy, born Plymouth, Devon (there is a possible death for John as shown, it gives a second name of Adolphus)
  6. 1871 Census - 3 Owens Cottages, St Andrew, Plymouth, Devon. Son Wallace was with her aged 20, Saddler (Apprentice) born Plymouth, Devon. 
  7. 1881 Census - 25 Cumberland Street, St Pancras, London, With son Wallace 30 unmarried a Harness Maker unemployed, both down as being born in Devon. The fact they are in St Pancras and that was have an Elizabeth ANGIER buried in Highgate Cemetery in 1888 ties up with what we have been trying to prove that this is in fact the person we had down as Grace. She was a half sister to George who was also buried in the same grave as her at Highgate Cemetery. The fact that one of the children had LUPTON as his second name I think makes it all but 100 per cent certain that the information above is now correct. I have not been able to find Elizabeth Chaff ANGIER after the 1851 Census, but George Lupton ANGIER married in the March quarter of 1879 in St Pancras district, London, which only adds weight to what was have found. He married Elizabeth FERN. On the 1881 Census George and Elizabeth are living at 42 ???, Regents Park, St Pancras, London, he was a Saddler, his wife Elizabeth was 35 (one year older than him) and was born in St Pancras, Middlesex, they had a daughter a Alice Fern AINGER aged 1 born St Pancras, London.  I will continue with this family when I have put the relevant charts on the Web.
  8. 1891 Census - 37 Stanhope St, St Pancras, London
  9. 1901 Census - 37 Stanhope St, St Pancras, London
  10. 1901 Census - District Workhouse, St Marylebone, London.

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