MARTIN Chart 0600

This is a Chart for George Martin and Sarah ???

 

married
 1822
St John
Horsleydown
Southwark
Surrey

 
 

1
GEORGE MARTIN
born  
???
occupation
Grocer

  

2
SARAH ???
born about
1800
Tunbridge, Kent
occupation
1851 Grocer
1871 Housekeeper
widow on the 1851 Census

3
Mary Ann
MARTIN
 born  
1833
Newington, Surrey
occupation
1851 Dressmaker
1861 Dressmaker
1871 Mangle Maker

married
???

4
 Fanny
MARTIN
 born  
1834
Walworth (Newington) Surrey
died  
December quarter
1892
Camberwell Area, London

married
11th March 1855
St John
Southwark
London
witnesses
George
MARTIN
Frederick
JOHNSON
John
DACKOMBE

5
William
MARTIN
 born about
1837
Newington
Surrey
occupation
1851
Apprentice
Cigar Maker

6
Isabella
MARTIN
born about
1849
Newington
Surrey
occupation
1861 Scholar
   
    1.  
    2. 1851 Census - 1 Martha Street, Dulwich, Camberwell, Surrey
    3. 1841 Census - Portland Street, St Peters, Newington, Mary and Fanny were with an Agnes BARTON aged 65 occupation Independent born in Surrey
      1851 Census - 1 Martha Street, Dulwich, Camberwell, Surrey
      1861 Census -  5 George Street, Camberwell, Surrey. see note below. in 2014 the correct image appears but it does not solve a lot, Mary is the head and Sarah is down with the family as Mother. The actual children now I can see image are as follows but they are down as children of Mary A. There are not as many as originally shown but are Isabella aged 11, and Alfred aged 10 born Newington, London then Francis aged 8, Edgar aged 5, Harry aged 3 and Frederick aged 1 all born Camberwell, Surrey and all but Frederick are Scholars.
      At the present time Ancestry is showing the wrong image for this Census but it appears that Mary Ann was the Head of Household, her mother was with her and there appears to be several children. I was trying to solve the children on the 1871, as can be seen Mary and her mother appear as widows on the 1871 Census, but why then has Mary the name MARTIN. The list for the 1861 shows numerous children including Isabella, child of Sarah? and Edgar child of Mary ?. 
      The list that comes up is 
      Mary A Martin 23 
      Alfred Martin 10 
      Isabella Martin 11 
      Francis Martin 8 
      Alfred Martin 10 
      Edgar Martin 5 
      Francis Martin 8 
      Henry Martin 3 
      Edgar Martin 5 
      Frederick Martin 1 
      Harry Martin 3 
      Sarah Martin 61 
      Frederick Martin 1 
      So they cannot all be the children of Mary, so need to see actual census to see if this clears up anything, as can be seen Edgar appears twice as does Frederick so a complete muddle
      1871 42 Rathbone Place, Marylebone, Middlesex
      Mary Ann Dackombe was living/staying with her mother's family at the time of the 1871 Census at 42 Rathbone Place, Marylebone, Middlesex. The relationships are a little confusing. I think that the Head of the Household is her Grandmother, and if correctly described she would have been put down as Granddaughter, but I think that Fanny's sister Mary Ann MARTIN must have given the enumerator the information and given relationships as related to her, as I believe all the children described as son, daughter etc are the children of Mary Ann, and not of her mother Sarah. So bearing this in mind this is the information of the family living at 42 Rathbone Place.
      Sarah MARTIN - Head - Widow - Age 77 - Housekeeper - born Tonbridge, Kent
      Mary A MARTIN - Daughter - Widow - Age 38 - Mantle Maker - born  Surrey, Newington
      Frank MARTIN - Son - Age 17 - occupation? Waiter? - born Surrey, Camberwell
      Edgar MARTIN - Son - Age 16 - Locksmith - born Surrey, Camberwell
      Henry MARTIN - Son - Age 13 - Copyboy - born Surrey, Camberwell
      Frederick MARTIN - Son - Age 11 - Scholar - born Surrey, Camberwell
      Florence MARTIN - Daughter - Age 9 - Scholar - born Middlesex, Kensington
      Mary A DACKOMBE - Niece - Age 14 - Mantle Maker - born Surrey, Camberwell
      There was another family living at the same address, the wife was also a Mantle Maker.
    4. 1841 Census - Portland Street, St Peters, Newington, Fanny and her sister Mary Ann were with an Agnes BARTON aged 65 occupation Independent born in Surrey
      1851 Census - 1 Martha Street, Dulwich, Camberwell, Surrey
      1861 Census - 8 Townley Place, St Peters, Walworth Surrey (RG9/343)
      1871 Townley Street, St Peter's, Newington, Surrey  (RG10/620 Folio 130 Page 33)
      1881 14 Nursery Row, Newington, Surrey. John's mother Mary Ann DACKOMBE was with the family.
      1891 13 Guildford Road, Camberwell, Surrey. There was a Florence ARNOLD, Granddaughter aged 4 born Walworth, London with the family.
    5. 1851 Census - 1 Martha Street, Dulwich, Camberwell, Surrey
    6. 1851 Census - 1 Martha Street, Dulwich, Camberwell, Surrey

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