WICKER/SMITHERS Chart 0300

This is a Chart for James Smithers, Fanny Fullick and Alfred Henry Wicker

 

married(1)
September quarter  
1897
 Kingston district
 Surrey

  (2)married
married
25th April 1905
St Peter and St Paul
Godalming
Surrey
witnesses
H FULLICK
A WICKER
registered
  June quarter
1905  
Guildford district
Surrey

1
JAMES  SMITHERS
born 
6th January 1875
Pyrford, Surrey
registered
March quarter  1875
 Chertsey district
Surrey
baptised
7th February 1875
St Nicholas
Pyrford with Wisley
Surrey
occupation
1881 Scholar
1891 Ag Labourer
died
 March quarter 1900
 Kingston district
Surrey 
Aged 25

 

2
FANNY FULLICK

born  about
 December quarter 1874 
 Headley, Hampshire 
occupation
 1901 General Servant (Domestic)
died
 
September quarter 1917
 Petersfield district
 Hampshire 
Aged 46

3
ALFRED HENRY WICKER
born about
 December quarter
 1886
Steyning, Sussex 
occupation
1901 Carter on Farm (possibly)
1905 Carter (baptism of Alfred Horace)
 1911 Cowman on Farm
died about
 
June quarter
1981
 Surrey South Western district, Surrey 
Age 74

4
James
 Henry
 SMITHERS
born about
 
December quarter 1897
Surbiton, Surrey
occupation
1911 School, part time errand boy
died
See Notes
5
William
Archibald
SMITHERS
born
4th March 1899
Surbiton, Surrey
occupation
1911 School
died
June quarter
1929
Alverstoke
Hampshire
Aged 30
6
Marjorie 
Elsie
SMITHERS
born about
 March quarter 1903
 Farnham, Surrey
 (not James's daughter)
and as down as
Step daughter on 1911 Census
not Alfred Henry WICKER's
daughter 
died 
(registration not found)
7
Alfred 
Horace
 WICKER
born 
16th September 1905
Godalming, Surrey
registered
 
December quarter 1905 
baptised
13th October 1905
St Peter and St Paul
Godalming
Surrey
died
 
December  quarter 1962
 Melton Mowbray district Leicestershire

married (1) 
 22nd September 1928
Lucknow
Bengal, India
Isabella 
Elizabeth 
HEARNE
born
1911
(registration not found)
died
 (registration not found); 

married
(2) 
March  quarter 1951
 Melton Mowbray district Leicestershire
Margaret
 BROWN 
or 
MOORE
born about
 1921
(registration not found)
died 
(registration not found).
8
Ada 
Evelyn 
WICKER
born 
1st December 1907
Fittleworth, Sussex
 (registered March quarter 1908)
baptised
 
14th June 1908
Fittleworth, Sussex
 (parents Alfred Henry and Fanny)
died
June 1993
Petersfield district
Hampshire

married 
September quarter 1936
  Surrey South Western district Surrey 
as 
Evelyn A 
Frederick W 
ELLIS 
born about
 1902
 (registration not found)7
died 
(registration not found).
9
Vera 
Ivy 
May 
WICKER
born 
12th December 1909
 Fittleworth, Sussex
registered
March  quarter 1910
died 
August 1996
Haywards Heath district
West Sussex
Aged 86

married(1)
1933
Western Australia
Australia
Frank 
Bertram
DICKER
born about
June quarter
1905
Edmonton district
Middlesex
died
4th November 1937
Katanning
Western Australia
Australia

married(2)
December quarter
1940
Cuckfield district
Sussex
Henry
 Reginald
BURGESS
born
22nd January 1905
Brede
Sussex
died
June 1997
Lewes, Sussex
Aged 92
  1. 1875 Pyrford, Surrey (at baptism) Father John a Labourer, Mother Emily.
    1881 Lock Cottage, Pyrford, Surrey. Father John SMITHERS aged 33 an Ag Lab born Wisley, Surrey, Mother Wmily aged 35 born Pyrford, Surrey, All children born Pyrford, Surrey. John aged 13 a Scholar, George aged 11 a Scholar, Harriet aged 10 a Scholar, William aged 9 a Scholar Meloria E aged 7 a Scholar, then James followed by Mary 4 a Scholar, Sarah 3 a Scholar and Enough? (Enoch on 1891 Census) aged 1
    1891 Old Day? Farm, Wisley Lane, Wisley, Surrey. Father John aged 48 a An Labourer born Wisley, Surrey, MotherEmily aged 43 born Pyrford, Surrey, All children born Pyrford, Surrey. John aged 23 an Ag Labourer, George aged 21 an Ag Labourer, Laura aged 17 a Nurse Domestic, then James followed by Mark 14 an Ag Labourer, Enoch aged 11 a Scholar, Henry aged 9 a Scholar, and Norah aged 6 a Scholar
  2. 1901 Holly Lodge, Shottermill, Surrey as a widow. Servant of Edith M WITHAM (42) single Living on Own Means born Leeds. Yorkshire Boarding with them was Jesslie MILSLEST? (36) single born Cannonbury, London
    1905 53 Spring Place, Godalming, Surrey (at 2nd marriage) Father Henry FULLICK - Carter 
    1905 53 Catteshall Lane, Godalming, Surrey (baptism of Alfred Horace) 
    1911 Stretch Hill, Fittleworth, Littlworth, Sussex with new husband. Living with new family as well as children from first marriage, James Henry SMITHERS (13) and Margery Elsie SMITHERS (8) . Boarding with them were Stephen COOMBER (19) Carter on Farm born Hackney, Middlesex and Percy FRITH (24) Cowman on Farm born Addlestone, Surrey. On the 1911 census Fanny is shown as having been married 6 years and having had 3 children still living
  3. 1891 Coombes, Buttolphs, Steyning, Sussex as Henry. Living with them was Percy SHINER (6) Nurse Child born Botolphs, Sussex
    1901 High Pitfold, Shottermill, Surrey. Lodging with John LAWRENCE (46) Shepherd on Farm and his wife Maria (57)  both born Frensham, Surrey. Possible address as he said he was born in Rogate but he was in Shottermill  where Alfred and Annie's son Albert was born in 1900).
    1905 27 Victoria Road, Godalming, Surrey (at marriage)
    1905 53 Catteshall Lane, Godalming, Surrey (baptism of Alfred Horace) 
    1911 Stretch Hill, Fittleworth, Littlworth, Sussex. Boarding with them were Stephen COOMBER (19) Carter on Farm born Hackney, Middlesex and Percy FRITH (24) Cowman on Farm born Addlestone, Surrey
  4. 1901 Ihurst Farm (part of) Chipstead, Surrey
    Living with grandparents James SMITHERS (52) Carriet on Farm born Fring?, Sussex,
    and Louisa (52) born Wimborne, Dorset together with their children Harry (22) Carter
    on Farm and Frank (14) Stockman on Farm borh born Linch? Sussex and Charles A
    (11) born Farnhurst, Sussex
    1911 Stretch Hill, Fittleworth, Littlworth, Sussex. Boarding with them were Stephen COOMBER (19) Carter on Farm born Hackney, Middlesex and Percy FRITH (24) Cowman on Farm born Addlestone, Surrey
    Does the following apply to this James Henry SMITHERS? 
    The place of birth in the first source is correct. 
    The birth year is two years out in the first source although exact in the second. 
    But the first source is from Deaths at sea, 1781-1968 whereas the second one gives a grave reference of a cemetery in Northumberland
    The third source is the death which matches the information in the second source. 
    But who was Mrs. M A BROWN? She could have been Mary Ann FULLICK James's mother older sister born 1872 Headley, Hampshire
    First name(s) James Henry
    Last name SMITHERS
    Gender Male
    Birth year 1895
    Birth date 9 Nov 1895
    Birth place Surbiton
    Death year 1918
    Death date 6 Sep 1918
    From Commonwealth War Graves web site
    Rank: Gunner
    Service No: RMA/13397
    Date of Death: 06/09/1918
    Age: 20
    Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Artillery H.M.S. "President III." 
    Grave Reference: XXII. U. 115.
    Cemetery: NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE (BYKER AND HEATON) CEMETERY
    Additional Information: Nephew of Mrs. M. A. Brown, of 378, Whippendell Rd., Watford, Herts.
    From findmypast
    First name(s) JAMES H
    Last name SMITHERS
    Gender Male
    Birth day -
    Birth month -
    Birth year 1898
    Age 20
    Death quarter 3
    Death year 1918
    District TYNEMOUTH
    County Northumberland
    On the Royal Marines web site he is shown to be listed on the Roll of Honour Memorial on the ground floor of the museum adjacent to the Reading Room. Under the heading of "Where Serving" it has "H.M.S.PRESIDENT III FOR D.A.M.S" and under the heading of "Cause" it has "Died" as do most of the men listed. There are a couple of "Accidents" and one "Drowned".
  5. 1901 High Pitfold, Shottermill, Farnham, Surrey, Visiting Henry FULLICK (56) Carter on Farm, his wife Elizabeth (56) both born Headley, Hampshire and their son Harry (20) Carter on Farm born Alton, Hampshire. Boarding with them was George HARDING (22) single Carter on Farm born Horsham, Sussex
    1911 3 the Avenue Grayshott Haslemere Surrey, Grayshott, Hampshire. Living as grandchild with Henry FULLICK (68) Carman Coal and his wife Elizabeth (68) both born Headley, Hampshire. Boarding with them were Henry STACEY (25) Carman Coal born Bramshott, Surrey and Frederick Arthur STOKES (24) Bricklater born Charlton, Dover, Kent
  6. 1911 Stretch Hill, Fittleworth, Littlworth, Sussex as Margery. Boarding with them were Stephen COOMBER (19) Carter on Farm born Hackney, Middlesex and Percy FRITH (24) Cowman on Farm born Addlestone, Surrey
  7. 1905 53 Catteshall Lane, Godalming, Surrey (baptism of Alfred Horace) 
    1911 Stretch Hill, Fittleworth, Littlworth, Sussex . Boarding with them were Stephen COOMBER (19) Carter on Farm born Hackney,Middlesex and Percy FRITH (24) Cowman on Farm born Addlestone, Surrey
    Found the following but didn't make a note of the source...and didn't get any further...but several days later found more below....can you find anything more about Isabella Elizabeth HEARNE?
    Wicker Alfred Horace - - 1928 British India Office marriages Lucknow, Bengal 
    Wicker Alfred Horace - - 1928 British India Office marriages Lucknow, Bengal 
    From findmypast
    First name(s) ALFRED H
    Last name WICKER
    Marriage year 1928
    Marriage place LUCKNOW
    Country INDIA
    Spouse's first name(s) -
    Spouse's last name -
    Page 95
    Line number -
    Record source GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)
    And I have just found more...
    First name(s) Alfred Horace
    Last name Wicker
    Marriage year 1928
    Marriage date 22 Sep 1928
    Spouse's first name Isabella Elizabeth
    Spouse's last name Hearne
    Place Lucknow
    Presidency Bengal
    Groom's age 24
    Bride's age 17
    Groom's father's first name Alfred Henry
    Groom's father's last name Wicker
    Bride's father's first name Charles Ignatius
    Bride's father's last name Hearne
    Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, 1713-1948
    Archive reference N-1-510
  8. 1911 Stretch Hill, Fittleworth, Littlworth, Sussex. Boarding with them were Stephen COOMBER (19) Carter on Farm born Hackney, Middlesex and Percy FRITH (24) Cowman on Farm born Addlestone, Surrey
  9. 1911 Stretch Hill, Fittleworth, Littlworth, Sussex. Boarding with them were Stephen COOMBER (19) Carter on Farm born Hackney, Middlesex and Percy FRITH (24) Cowman on Farm born Addlestone, Surrey

    This chart still has to be completed, I have just found another child with maternal grandparents on1901 Census, to be added. details for last child on chart to be continued, had a child in Australia if I can find the name etc. Also queries my sister found I  have not answered

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