SMITH/CARTWRIGHT Chart 0207

This is a Chart for Henry John Smith, Florence Mary Living, William Prestage Charles Cartwright and Frances Maria Johnson

  possibly(1)
married
before 
1914
  (2)married(2)
March quarter
1921
Islington district
London
(1)married(1)
30th April 1916 
 St Andrew Barnsbury Islington
London
witnesses
William DEERTAGE?
 Charles CARTWRIGHT Grace Ellen CARTWRIGHT
 
1
HENRY JOHN SMITH
born about
1871
St Alban's
Hertfordshire
occupation
1891 Brush Boring Hand
possibly
died
1917
  2
FLORENCE MARY LIVING
born 
25th February 1889
101 Rodney Road
Newington, Surrey
informant at birth
Emily Elizabeth  LIVING
 formerly KING
baptised
10th March 1889
St John the Evangelist
Walworth, Southwark, London
school
Flint Road School
Southward
Admitted 
21st March 1892
occupation
1901 Domestic Servant
3
WILLIAM PRESTAGE CHARLES
CARTWRIGHT  

born
31st March 1893
died
1979
Aged 86
occupation
1916
Labourer
(at first marriage)
died
March quarter
1979
Islington district
London
Aged 86
4
FRANCES MARIA
JOHNSON

born about
1893
possibly died
March quarter
1920
St Pancras district
London
Aged 27

5
Charles H W
SMITH
born about
December quarter
1911
Islington district
London
6
Robert C H
SMITH
born about
March quarter
1916
Islington district
London
7
Stanley D
CARTWRIGHT
born about
March quarter
1929
Islington district
London
8
David J
CARTWRIGHT
born about
December quarter
1930
Islington district
London
9
Donald L
CARTWRIGHT
born about
December quarter
1930
Islington district
London
  1. 1891 Census - 271 East Street, Walworth, Newington, Surrey. With the family was a Henry SMITH a boarder aged 20 a Brush Boring Hand born St Alban's Hertfordshire. We believe it was this Henry SMITH that finally married Florence LIVING after first being married to someone else.
  2. 1889 101 Rodney Road, Newington, Surrey
    1891 Census - 271 East Street, Walworth, Newington, Surrey. With the family was a Henry SMITH a boarder aged 20 a Brush Boring Hand born St Alban's Hertfordshire. We believe it was this Henry SMITH that finally married Florence LIVING after first being married to someone else.
    1892 271 East Street, Walworth, Surrey
    1892 271 East Street, Southwark, London. (admission of Florence Mary LIVING to Flint School, Southwark, London
    1894 109 Bishops Road Bethnal Green, Middlesex
    1897 Victoria Park, Middlesex
    1898  3 Gore Road, South Hackney 
    1901 Census - 103a  Lawrence Avenue, East Ham, Essex
    1911 Census - Not found at present
    1914 35 Barnsbury Road, Copenhagen Street, Islington, London
    I have taken it that Florence married a SMITH as that is the name she gives as an informant on her mother's death. At present I cannot find a marriage that fits, and I cannot find on the 1911 Census. It is possible she was married by 1911 as she would have been 21, I have found the following children with the father as SMITH and the mother's maiden name as LIVING. All possible, it looks as though they started in Islington and I will search again on the 1911 Census (only two Florence SMITH's come up born in the correct year in Newington and both of these show as being in an Institution so not happy these are the correct people) and then moved to West Ham with Lilian and William possibly being twins. Florence address was in Islington in 1914 on the death of her mother.
    Charles H W Smith 1911 Oct-Nov-Dec Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex 
    Robert C H Smith 1916 Jan-Feb-Mar Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex 
    I do not think that the following children was indeed children of this couple as it appears that Henry died around 1917
    Phoebe E Smith 1917 Jan-Feb-Mar West Ham Essex, Greater London 
    Lilian S Smith 1919 Oct-Nov-Dec West Ham Essex, Greater London
    William J Smith 1919 Oct-Nov-Dec West Ham Essex, Greater London 
    Ellen L Smith 1921 Jul-Aug-Sep West Ham Essex, Greater London 
    Taking another tack, and the fact the first son is a Charles and therefore it is possible his father is there are again two Charles SMITHs living in Islington with a wife called Florence who was born in 1888. Both of these are Households not institutions so possible one of these is correct but have not looked at them. I think where there is doubt it is worth waiting to be able to search through when finally Ancestry.com gets them online.
    I have then found a Ancestry.com tree that shows the husband of Florence as Henry John with a second marriage to a William Prestage Charles CARTWRIGHT in 1921. This again is only a possibility as they do not have the complete family on for Albert (only two children) and they only shown one child for Henry and Florence the Robert C H SMITH in 1916.
    We believe that Henry John Smith died about 1917 so I would think only Charles H W SMITH and Robert C H SMITH were children of this Couple, as it does appear that Florence as Florence M SMITH married William P C CARTWRIGHT in March quarter 1921 in Islington, Middlesex, which makes a move to West Ham, Essex unlikely. It also appears that this was not the first marriage of William Prestage Charles Cartwright as he appears to have had a previous marriage on 30th April 1916 at St Andrew, Barnsbury, Islington to a Frances Maria JOHNSON. She possibly died in March quarter 1920 in Pancras district, London aged 27. On the 1916 marriage certificate Frances is down as being a Spinster aged 23 of 22 Lyon street, Islington with father as John JOHNSON (Deceased) a Labourer, William Prestage Charles CARTWRIGHT was also 23 a Bachelor a Labourer of 40 Clayton street, Islington with father as William Prestage Charles CARTWRIGHT a Labourer. The witnesses at their marriage were William DEERTAGE?, Charles CARTWRIGHT and Grace Ellen CARTWRIGHT.
    From the family tree on Ancestry it appears that William CARTWRIGHT and Florence SMITH née LIVING had several children.
    These three children are listed in Islington with CARTWRIGHT as the surname and LIVING as the mothers maiden name.
    Stanley D Cartwright Jan-Feb-Mar 1929 Islington London 
    David J Cartwright Oct-Nov-Dec 1930 Islington London 
    Donald L Cartwright Oct-Nov-Dec 1930 Islington London
    The family tree show seven children, some of which are living so no details given, at present I have only put the three children that show on the BMD on the Chart above
  3. 1916 40 Clayton street, Islington
  4. 1916 22 Lyon street, Islington with father as John JOHNSON (Deceased) a Labourer,
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  9. This is only a start at this chart, at present there are quite a few unknowns, and hopefully over time more will be able to be added

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