SANDFORD Chart 0601

This is a Chart for Edmund Sandford and Elizabeth Walter

 

married
25th February 1800
St Mary
 St Marylebone Road
 Saint Marylebone,
 London, Middlesex
witnesses
Robert SMITH
Mary FOWLER

 
 

1
EDMUND SANDFORD

born about
1773
baptised
1st August 1773
 Kintbury, Berkshire
died before
1841

 

2
ANN ELIZABETH WALTER

born about
1780
Middlesex
occupation
1841 Independent


3
Sophia
 Matilda
SANDFORD

born
16th January 1808
baptised
22nd June 1808
St Mary
St Marylebone Road
Saint Marylebone
London, Middlesex
possibly died
before
1821
4
Harriet 
Welbey
(Wilby)
SANDFORD
born  
5th October 1809
St George, Hanover Square
Middlesex
baptised
 17th January 1810
 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road
 Saint Marylebone, London
died 
March quarter
1890
Wandsworth district
Aged 80

married
26th April 1829
St George
Hanover Square
Westminster
Middlesex
witnesses
Thomas CAMP
Ann SANDFORD
(her mark)
James
POWELL

5
Charles 
Thomas
SANDFORD
born about
1817
baptised
23rd February
1817
St George
Hanover Square
Westminster, London
occupation
1841 possibly
Locksmith
1851 Gas Firer
1865 Gas Fitter

married (1)
possibly before
1841
Mary
???
born about
1823
Middlesex
occupation
1841 Dressmaker
1851 Stay Maker

married(2)
13th March 1865
Christ Church
St Marylebone
Middlesex
witnesses
J MARTIN
Lucy NEIGHBOUR
Sarah
NEIGHBOUR
6
Sarah
Sophia
SANDFORD
born about
1821
St George
Hanover Square
Middlesex

married
4th July 1843
Christ Church
St Marylebone
Middlesex
witnesses
Charles Thomas
SANDFORD
Sarah 
BLABY
Frederick
ANLEY

 

 

7
Edmund
Robert
SANDFORD

born about
1822
Middlesex

married
25th May 1846
St James
Paddington
Middlesex
witnesses
Charles Thomas SANDFORD
Sarah ANLEY
Sarah 
HUMPHREY
  1. Notes for Edmund SANDFORD:
    Notes on trying to determine the relationship between the Edmund SANDFORDs,
    This has been written because the information entered for this family is speculative and needs to be researched further to find proof for the conclusions drawn.
    FACT -
    Edmund SANDFORD (b 1773) married Ann Elizabeth WALTER (b1781) in Marylebone, Middlesex
    They had Sophia (b1808) and Harriett (b 1809) both baptised in Marylebone
    FACT -
    Ann SANDFORD (b1781) was living in Marylebone, Middlesex in 1841 together with Edmund STANFORD (b1826) and Sarah STANFORD (b1821), both born in Middlesex.
    QUERY -
    Was this 1841 Ann SANDFORD (b1781) the same person as Ann Elizabeth WALTER (b1781) wife of Edmund SANDFORD (b1773)?
    FACT -
    Edmund Robert SANDFORD (bc1822 Middlesex) married Sarah HUMPHREY or HUMPHERY in 1845 in Kensington and in 1861 they were living in Marylebone, Middlesex. The father of Edmund Robert was another Edmund SANDFORD 
    QUERY -
    Was Edmund Robert SANDFORD (bc 1822) the same Robert who was living with Ann (bc 1781) in Marylebone in 1841. together with Sarah (bc1821)? 
    FACTS -
    Edmund SANDFORD (b1773) and Ann Elizabeth WALTER (b1781) had a daughter Harriet Welbey SANDFORD (b1809) who married James POWELL. They had a daughter Harriet who married Peter OTTLEY.....
    Edmund Robert SANDFORD and Sarah HUMPHREY had a daughter Caroline SANDFORD (b1850 Marylebone). In 1871 she was living with the family of Harriett OTTLEY, the daughter of Harriett POWELL née SANDFORD (b1809) as "cousin". (Caroline later married Harriett's brother-in-law, Matthew POWELL). 
    QUERY -
    How are the two families, that of Edmund SANDFORD (b1773) and Ann Elizabeth WALTER(b1781) and that of Edmund Robert SANDFORD (bc1822) and Sarah HUMPHREY connected?
    POSSIBLE CONCLUSIONS
    1. The Ann SANDFORD (bc1781) on the 1841 census is Ann Elizabeth SANDFORD née WALTER wife of 
    Edmund SANDFORD (b1773)
    2. Edmund Robert SANDFORD (bc1822-1826) and Sarah SANDFORD (bc 1821) who are with an Ann 
    SANDFORD (bc 1781) on the 1841 are the children of Edmund SANDFORD (b1773) and Ann Elizabeth
    SANDFORD née WALTER (b1781)
    This would make the relationship between Harriet OTTLEY and Caroline SANDFORD that of first
    cousins as their mother and father would have been brother and sister.
    3, However, Ann Elizabeth SANDFORD née WALTER had children in 1808 and 1809 so it seems rather a
    long gap from 1809 until 1821 and 1826 before Sarah and Edmund Robert were born. So, perhaps 
    there was another Edmund (bc1801) making another generation in between that of Edmund (b1773)
    and Edmund Robert (b1822/1826). 
    As we have no information about an Edmund born about 1801, at present it has been decided to conclude that Edmund Robert SANDFORD born about 1822/1826 was the son of Edmund SANDFORD (b1722) and Ann Elizabeth WALTER (b1781). More research required
  2. 1841 James Street, Marylebone, Middlesex. It appears that there are quite a number of individuals living at this address, the relationship between them all is of course not indicated. Thomas ADDISON (60) Shoe M not born Middlesex, Elizabeth ADDISON (25) born Middlesex. Martha GEARY (70) Independent, Delia BRYNE (40) Independent both not born Middlesex. John WALLER (80) Painter, Ann SANDFORD (60) Independent, Edmund SANDFORD (15) Porter and Sarah SANDFORD (20) all born Middlesex. There could even be another 11 people living in the same property, again no clear relationships.
  3.  
  4. 1834 Medway Street, Westminster, Middlesex 
    1836 Horseshoe Alley, Westminster, Middlesex
    Rochester Row, Westminster, Middlesex
    1841 Census - 6 Greencoat Cottages, Westminster, Middlesex (census)
    1841 4 Greencoat Cottages, Brewers Green, Westminster, Middlesex (birth of daughter  Rebecca) 
    1844 Greencoat Cottages, Westminster, Middlesex
    1846 2 Greencoat Cottages, Westminster, Middlesex
    1849 2 Greencoat Cottages, Westminster, Middlesex
    1851 Census - 2 Greencoat Cottages, Westminster, Middlesex
    1856 1 York Place, Brewers Green, Westminster, Middlesex
    1861 Census - 1 York Place, Westminster, Middlesex. Living with James, Harriet and their children Charlotte, William, Charles, Matthew and Isaac were: Son-in-law Charles BUCKNELL (37) widower Carman and his children Harriet (7) Scholar and Charles (4) Scholar all born Westminster, Middlesex. Also in same property were: Peter OTTLEY (30) Labourer born Langdon Hills, Essex, his wife Harriet (24) daughter of James and Harriet, born St Johns, Westminster and their children Peter James (4) and Lydia A (1) both born St Margarets, Westminster, Middlesex
    1871 Census - 37 Landseer Street, Battersea, London
    1881 Census - 3 Lucy Road, Battersea, Surrey. In the same house were the GREENE and HOOK families with a total of 10 children.
    Marriage information from Anthony Paul VAVASOUR 13th September 1995
  5. 1841 Gees Court, Rectory, St Marylebone, Middlesex. There was a Charles SANDFORD of the correct age, he was married to a Mary who was only 18 and a Dressmaker, they had a daughter Jane who was 1.
    1851 1 James Street, Rectory, St Marylebone, Middlesex.
  6. 1841 James Street, Marylebone, Middlesex. It appears that there are quite a number of individuals living at this address, the relationship between them all is of course not indicated. Thomas ADDISON (60) Shoe M not born Middlesex, Elizabeth ADDISON (25) born Middlesex, Martha GEARY (70) Independent, Delia BRYNE (40) Independent both not born Middlesex, John WALLER (80) Painter, Ann SANDFORD (60) Independent, Edmund SANDFORD (15) Porter and Sarah SANDFORD (20) all born Middlesex. There could even be another 11 people living in the same property, again no clear relationships.
    1851 Not found
    1871 Census - 6 Brunswick Place, Poplar,  Middlesex
  7. 1841 James Street, Marylebone, Middlesex. It appears that there are quite a number of individuals living at this address, the relationship between them all is of course not indicated. Thomas ADDISON (60) Shoe M not born Middlesex, Elizabeth ADDISON (25) born Middlesex, Martha GEARY (70) Independent, Delia BRYNE (40) Independent both not born Middlesex, John WALLER (80) Painter, Ann SANDFORD (60) Independent, Edmund SANDFORD (15) Porter and Sarah SANDFORD (20) all born Middlesex. There could even be another 11 people living in the same property, again no clear relationships.
    1851 Not found
    1861 45 East Street, Marylebone, Middlesex
    1871 Not found

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